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Ep. 098: Jon Mooallem

Published: 2018-01-08 16:53:00
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Seattle, WA- Steven Rinella talks with the writer Jon Mooallem, along with Ryan Callaghan, and Janis Putelis of the MeatEater crew.

Subjects discussed: Anchorage and salmon floating around Steve's head; looking at people, looking at animals; animals making it into the stuffy realm; the rising of the hedgehog's brand; how kids react to the brutality of nature; William T. Hornaday, buffalo, and what enlightenment looks like; claims to moral legitimacy; Ice Age hunters; species level thinking; and more.

 

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Referenced Books

Wild Ones
by John Mooallem
The guest John Mooallem's book is discussed extensively throughout the podcast. The full subtitle is mentioned as 'A sometimes dismaying, weirdly reassuring story about looking at people, looking at animals in America.' The book covers conservation, endangered species, and human relationships with animals including stories about buffalo, polar bears, butterflies, and sea turtles.
Referenced at 00:00:08
Camp Fires in the Rocky
by William T. Hornaday
Steve Rinella asks John if he has read Hornaday's book about 'going up into BC hunting mountain goats, grizzlies and big horns' and references sending John this book. The book is about Hornaday's hunting experiences.
Referenced at 00:00:08
The Road
by Cormac McCarthy
Referenced in discussion about shifting baseline syndrome and how people normalize their circumstances. John mentions 'even if Cormac McCarthy's the road right, there's only so much anxiety to go around' when discussing how future generations will adapt to their conditions.
Referenced at 00:00:08
Possum
by None
A children's book from the 1960s or 1970s that was sent to the speaker's kids by his brother and sister-in-law. The book depicts a mother possum with a large litter that gets whittled down through various predators over the summer until one female survives to reproduce. The speaker read it to his kids' first grade class.
Referenced at 00:00:08