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Ep. 385: A Wild New World

Published: 2022-11-07 10:00:00
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Steven Rinella talks with Dan Flores, Janis Putelis, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider.

Topics discussed: Jani negging Steve; the giant moose paddle that Steve's gonna make into a chair for his kid; how to get stuff from Alaska to the Lower 48; Dan Flores' brilliant new book, "Wild New World," is available; starting a story 66 million years ago; wiping the slate clean with a big asteroid; striking at a shallow angle; when extinctions stopped for 10,000 years; flightless birds as the first things to go; a haunting chicken memory from your childhood; where religious theology meets theories of extinction; cooking penguin eggs for breakfast; "too wild" for civilization; the fur desert; killing animals as a geopolitical idea; market capitalism wiping out the buffalo; the east coast prairie chicken; the ivory bill's toy trumpet cry; how Dan makes quick work of the mountain men; how our Neanderthal ancestors were more carnivorous than wolves; wishing to know an entire heaven and earth; and more.

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Referenced Books

None
by None
Discussion of negging as a pickup strategy, with mention of 'a whole book about how' to use this technique. No specific title or author provided, but clearly referenced as an existing published book.
Referenced at 00:00:08
Sapiens
by Yuval Harari
Dan Flores mentions this book as inspiration for his approach to 'Wild New World.' He describes it as 'a big history book about the origin of humans' that he and others have read.
Referenced at 00:00:08
Wild New World
by Dan Flores
The main book being discussed in the podcast. Subtitle is 'an epic story of animals and people in America.' Dan Flores is the guest promoting this new book about North American wildlife and human history over 66 million years.
Referenced at 00:00:08
The Border and the Buffalo
by John R. Cook
Published in 1906 by a former buffalo hunter. Dan discusses this memoir as the source of the conspiracy theory that the government deliberately killed buffalo to subjugate Native Americans.
Referenced at 00:00:08
The Extermination of the American Bison
by William Hornaday
Dan references this book when discussing the buffalo extinction narrative, noting that it doesn't contain the government conspiracy theory that later became popular.
Referenced at 00:00:08
Annals of the Former World
by John McPhee
Described as John McFee's 'phenomenal trilogy on American geology.' Steve references a quote from it where McFee says if he had to sum up the book in one sentence, it would be 'the top of Mount Everest is a marine limestone.'
Referenced at 00:00:08