Ep. 760: Teddy Roosevelt's Kids and Their Insane Quest To Kill a Giant Panda

Published: 2025-09-08 09:00:00

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Steven Rinella talks with author Nathalia Holt, Randall Williams, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider.

Topics discussed: Nathalia's new book, "The Beast In The Clouds: The Roosevelt Brothers' Deadly Quest to Find the Mythical Giant Panda" is out!; get presale tickets for MeatEater's Christmas Tour 2025 starting 9/22; the epitome of the bear to find; Roosevelt as a good dad; an expedition to China by foot in an area of no roads; museums and zoos; finding prints in the snow; simultaneous shooting; the gentle giant; collection is paramount; and more.

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Referenced Books

The Beast in the Clouds

by Nathalia Holt

This is the main subject of the interview - Nathalia Holt's new book about the Roosevelt brothers' quest to find the giant panda in the 1930s.

Referenced at 00:01:41

Wise Gals

by Nathalia Holt

Listed as one of Nathalia Holt's past books when introducing her credentials as a New York Times bestselling author.

Referenced at 00:08:07

Rise of the Rocket Girls

by Nathalia Holt

Listed as one of Nathalia Holt's past books when introducing her credentials as a New York Times bestselling author.

Referenced at 00:08:07

The Queens of Animation

by Nathalia Holt

Listed as one of Nathalia Holt's past books when introducing her credentials as a New York Times bestselling author.

Referenced at 00:08:07

River of Doubt

by Candice Millard

Speaker 3 (Nathalia Holt) references this book when discussing Teddy Roosevelt and Kermit's perilous 1913 expedition after Roosevelt lost the 1912 election, describing it as told 'so beautifully in Candice Millard's book River of Doubt.'

Referenced at 00:19:19